Comments on: 10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010 http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/ The home for visualists Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:43:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: The Back Pain Medicine Buzz Roundup | Jim On Light http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-12769 The Back Pain Medicine Buzz Roundup | Jim On Light Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:58:08 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-12769 [...] Light from The Emotion LabInteresting Lighting News:The Musical Light Bulbs of Michael Vorfield10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010Boston’s Big Picture Blog’s pictures of the Winter Olympic Opening CeremoniesUsing [...] [...] Light from The Emotion LabInteresting Lighting News:The Musical Light Bulbs of Michael Vorfield10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010Boston’s Big Picture Blog’s pictures of the Winter Olympic Opening CeremoniesUsing [...]

]]> By: logan caldwell » “10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010″ http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-8897 logan caldwell » “10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010″ Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:52:50 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-8897 [...] by Peter Kirn Permalink: 10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010 By: Peter [...] [...] by Peter Kirn Permalink: 10 Reasons to Look Forward to Tooling Around with Visualist Tools in 2010 By: Peter [...]

]]> By: Johnny http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7617 Johnny Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:38:02 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7617 Cheers Peter. I am looking into leanring how to make visuals to accompany my Live sets (Ableton). An article on the available options would be great :) Cheers Peter.

I am looking into leanring how to make visuals to accompany my Live sets (Ableton). An article on the available options would be great :)

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7616 Peter Kirn Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:50:19 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7616 @Johnny: Touch Designer / Derivative. Uh, yeah. Indeed. I even did an interview with them in a bar in Montreal in May, and just haven't transcribed it yet. Consider it moved up to the top of my to-do list. :) Ditto anything else we haven't done - nagging is welcome, seriously! @detronik: I absolutely agree, from my much less-educated position. And I certainly don't mean to suggest the Club market is unimportant. I would hope that the trend we're seeing now will give way to more immersive visuals in a range of venues and settings, including clubs. It's important from the music side, as well, because I think a lot of musicians are wondering how to make their work more expressive, visible (literally) in new ways. Electronic musicians are seeing a decline of their own, and at the same time, I think they're becoming more interested in visual craft. Now we have an increasingly terrific community of artists; it seems it's a matter of figuring out how to connect with the audience. I'm just talking tech here, but I think it could - should - take all year to talk about everything else. @Johnny: Touch Designer / Derivative. Uh, yeah. Indeed. I even did an interview with them in a bar in Montreal in May, and just haven't transcribed it yet. Consider it moved up to the top of my to-do list. :)

Ditto anything else we haven't done – nagging is welcome, seriously!

@detronik: I absolutely agree, from my much less-educated position. And I certainly don't mean to suggest the Club market is unimportant. I would hope that the trend we're seeing now will give way to more immersive visuals in a range of venues and settings, including clubs.

It's important from the music side, as well, because I think a lot of musicians are wondering how to make their work more expressive, visible (literally) in new ways. Electronic musicians are seeing a decline of their own, and at the same time, I think they're becoming more interested in visual craft. Now we have an increasingly terrific community of artists; it seems it's a matter of figuring out how to connect with the audience.

I'm just talking tech here, but I think it could – should – take all year to talk about everything else.

]]> By: detronik http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7615 detronik Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:11:04 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7615 I must say that Kevin does touch upon some critical matters dealing with presence of VJ's in our new era. On one hand our job is complicated by ever increasing user friendly tools and stock footage in the market... On the other hand the advent of these user friendly tools, low cost electronic components, and open source programs are creating recognition of our artform and a more diverse architecture of contributors. I don’t agree that visuals and lighting should be done by the same entity for the most part. However with growing integration of lighting control and LED Matrices in VJ Applications and Programming Environments, I also concede that we need to be more assertive with our methodology and approaches to integrating lighting and LED panels into our visual displays as a single infrastructure. Not limiting ourselves to just pure video imaging and merging these elements is essential in our struggle as Video Artisans and VJ’s. I do think when it comes to VJ’s in the club environment it can vary from location. I have been doing visuals in clubs for well over 15 years now and I have seen a decline in the market since I started. In the US it appears when it comes to budget, people are more likely to go with sound then lighting as oppose to sound then visuals. Hence, if more VJ’s and Video Artists merge this technology into their presence I think we can thwart this impending nuisance. Peter I completely respect your view of Visual Environments and the Visualists behind them. This indeed has to be one of the most exciting times in our rich history of developing the “Visualist”. Judging by comments I would have to say the fine line between various facets of our artform and computer science has ultimately fused. 2010 indeed boasts a bright new year for advancement in creative output and the mergence of multi-media development. I must say that Kevin does touch upon some critical matters dealing with presence of VJ's in our new era. On one hand our job is complicated by ever increasing user friendly tools and stock footage in the market… On the other hand the advent of these user friendly tools, low cost electronic components, and open source programs are creating recognition of our artform and a more diverse architecture of contributors. I don’t agree that visuals and lighting should be done by the same entity for the most part. However with growing integration of lighting control and LED Matrices in VJ Applications and Programming Environments, I also concede that we need to be more assertive with our methodology and approaches to integrating lighting and LED panels into our visual displays as a single infrastructure. Not limiting ourselves to just pure video imaging and merging these elements is essential in our struggle as Video Artisans and VJ’s. I do think when it comes to VJ’s in the club environment it can vary from location. I have been doing visuals in clubs for well over 15 years now and I have seen a decline in the market since I started. In the US it appears when it comes to budget, people are more likely to go with sound then lighting as oppose to sound then visuals. Hence, if more VJ’s and Video Artists merge this technology into their presence I think we can thwart this impending nuisance. Peter I completely respect your view of Visual Environments and the Visualists behind them. This indeed has to be one of the most exciting times in our rich history of developing the “Visualist”. Judging by comments I would have to say the fine line between various facets of our artform and computer science has ultimately fused. 2010 indeed boasts a bright new year for advancement in creative output and the mergence of multi-media development.

]]> By: Johnny http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7614 Johnny Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:21:07 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7614 Hi Peter, I read CDMusic very regularly, I must commend you for having your finger on the pulse. Though I have searched this site on numerous occasions and cant find any information on Derivative's Touch Designer (Touch 077). Keep them coming. All the best. Hi Peter, I read CDMusic very regularly, I must commend you for having your finger on the pulse. Though I have searched this site on numerous occasions and cant find any information on Derivative's Touch Designer (Touch 077).
Keep them coming. All the best.

]]> By: Jaymis http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7613 Jaymis Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:17:33 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7613 <a href='http://noisepages.com/members/peter/' rel="nofollow">@Peter</a>: Most LED screens (the enormous, ridiculously expensive ones used at festivals etc.) are very low resolution. Often sub-SD resolution, even if they're covering an entire stage. I'm sure this will change pretty quickly, and I don't necessarily agree with Kevin that it's like the compression of MP3... This is a technical limitation of the medium at the moment, between the LED driver hardware and the physical LED pixels, it's insanely expensive to do HD LED screens, as with everything else in the field, the price will drop rapidly. 10 years ago, data projectors were minimum $5000 in AU, now you can get an HD one for under $1000. @Peter: Most LED screens (the enormous, ridiculously expensive ones used at festivals etc.) are very low resolution. Often sub-SD resolution, even if they're covering an entire stage.

I'm sure this will change pretty quickly, and I don't necessarily agree with Kevin that it's like the compression of MP3… This is a technical limitation of the medium at the moment, between the LED driver hardware and the physical LED pixels, it's insanely expensive to do HD LED screens, as with everything else in the field, the price will drop rapidly. 10 years ago, data projectors were minimum $5000 in AU, now you can get an HD one for under $1000.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7612 Peter Kirn Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:53:57 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7612 @Kevin: Perhaps, but then the club scene was pretty dreadful to begin with. I guess it has now proven it can still get worse, but the benchmark was already pretty low. I'd say "art" is pretty healthy generally; it's the club scene that seems unpleasant. And I don't quite understand the criticism of technology. None of the tech above is new. It's all just cheaper, easier, and more reliable, which should leave us no excuse not to make our art better. (I know it's benefited me having Processing be more stable. Not to put technology over art, but that means that the time the Processing developers have volunteered has literally given me more hours to work on my stuff. That's a debt that will be hard for me ever to repay.) Low-rez LED screens -- not sure what you mean. You mean flat panels hung in the venue? @Kevin: Perhaps, but then the club scene was pretty dreadful to begin with. I guess it has now proven it can still get worse, but the benchmark was already pretty low. I'd say "art" is pretty healthy generally; it's the club scene that seems unpleasant. And I don't quite understand the criticism of technology. None of the tech above is new. It's all just cheaper, easier, and more reliable, which should leave us no excuse not to make our art better. (I know it's benefited me having Processing be more stable. Not to put technology over art, but that means that the time the Processing developers have volunteered has literally given me more hours to work on my stuff. That's a debt that will be hard for me ever to repay.)

Low-rez LED screens — not sure what you mean. You mean flat panels hung in the venue?

]]> By: Kevin Hackett http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7611 Kevin Hackett Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:18:40 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7611 This year saw midi controllers and VJ software matured to new levels, but all around the globe more and more VJs are being replaced by lighting companies and crap pre-packaged content. VJ forums is full of stories like this. I myself have been battling this all year. IMO, LED screens have ruined visual detail much like mp3 did to audio, now everyone wants to spin mp3s and do video on low rez led screens. What we need is a movement towards art and less away from technology. 2009 defiantly was a year for technology, but I feel the art was pushed even further into the back seat. This year saw midi controllers and VJ software matured to new levels, but all around the globe more and more VJs are being replaced by lighting companies and crap pre-packaged content. VJ forums is full of stories like this. I myself have been battling this all year. IMO, LED screens have ruined visual detail much like mp3 did to audio, now everyone wants to spin mp3s and do video on low rez led screens. What we need is a movement towards art and less away from technology. 2009 defiantly was a year for technology, but I feel the art was pushed even further into the back seat.

]]> By: Peter Kirn http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/12/10-reasons-to-look-forward-to-tooling-around-with-visualist-tools-in-2010/#comment-7610 Peter Kirn Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:27:57 +0000 http://createdigitalmotion.com/?p=4851#comment-7610 I was kind of sticking to visual specifics, but yes, indeed. Very excited for touch tablets/notebooks of various kinds happening. I'm hoping in particular for one with video out - we get that and we're really going to have a good time. And on the hardware front, Livid's Ohm and Block are especially good options -- would be even more so if we saw OSC support from them. Stay tuned. Actually, a controller article might be a good idea, now that you say this. ;) I was kind of sticking to visual specifics, but yes, indeed. Very excited for touch tablets/notebooks of various kinds happening. I'm hoping in particular for one with video out – we get that and we're really going to have a good time. And on the hardware front, Livid's Ohm and Block are especially good options — would be even more so if we saw OSC support from them. Stay tuned. Actually, a controller article might be a good idea, now that you say this. ;)

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