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	<title>Comments on: Apple Magic Trackpad as Multi-Touch Input, and Cross-Platform Multi-Touch</title>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-31449</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know how to &quot;delete&quot; an image (from image importer &gt; billboard) using the Kineme multitouch patch in Quartz composer? 
 
Congratulations GToledo, 
 
Marco </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know how to &quot;delete&quot; an image (from image importer &gt; billboard) using the Kineme multitouch patch in Quartz composer?</p>
<p>Congratulations GToledo,</p>
<p>Marco</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-31198</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a heads-up: Tongseng doesn&#039;t seem to recognize the Magic Trackpad as a multitouch source. It puts out no TUIO data when a Magic Trackpad is present and active. To be fair, though, it was last updated well before the Magic &#039;Pad&#039;s release. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a heads-up: Tongseng doesn&#039;t seem to recognize the Magic Trackpad as a multitouch source. It puts out no TUIO data when a Magic Trackpad is present and active. To be fair, though, it was last updated well before the Magic &#039;Pad&#039;s release.</p>
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		<title>By: Timo</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-30622</link>
		<dc:creator>Timo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. 
 
Any news on receiving raw input data from the Magic Trackpad in Windows? 
 
I&#039;m trying to write a little piece of software to make it work with absolute positioning, just like a pen tablet. This way, it could sufficiently replace my mouse, as I am continuously being bothered by some thumb RSI ;) 
 
Any input (no pun intended) is greatly appreciated! 
 
Best, 
Timo </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.</p>
<p>Any news on receiving raw input data from the Magic Trackpad in Windows?</p>
<p>I&#039;m trying to write a little piece of software to make it work with absolute positioning, just like a pen tablet. This way, it could sufficiently replace my mouse, as I am continuously being bothered by some thumb RSI <img src='http://createdigitalmotion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Any input (no pun intended) is greatly appreciated!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Timo</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-25119</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the latest trunk on the MT4j google code svn there is an input source which supports the multi-touch mac trackpads. It will probably also work with the magic trackpad which I can hopefully test soon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the latest trunk on the MT4j google code svn there is an input source which supports the multi-touch mac trackpads. It will probably also work with the magic trackpad which I can hopefully test soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirn</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-24788</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 18:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@George - not sure anyone&#039;s going to argue with that. :)  
 
That said, I think unrelated to what jittouch did, I remain interested in whether for cross-platform app development we can talk directly to the device. That appears to be how the magic mouse has already been used on Linux, via a kernel module that directly supports the chip. (That&#039;s *also* not a hack... far from it, then you support the hardware as long as the chip is in there, no Apple frameworks needed.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@George &#8211; not sure anyone&#039;s going to argue with that. <img src='http://createdigitalmotion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>That said, I think unrelated to what jittouch did, I remain interested in whether for cross-platform app development we can talk directly to the device. That appears to be how the magic mouse has already been used on Linux, via a kernel module that directly supports the chip. (That&#039;s *also* not a hack&#8230; far from it, then you support the hardware as long as the chip is in there, no Apple frameworks needed.)</p>
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		<title>By: George Toledo</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-24778</link>
		<dc:creator>George Toledo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider two scenarios: 
 
1: An Interactive Graphics Engine cobbles together a poorly written library to try to replicate some kind of functionality that is in the Mac. 
 
2: An Interactive Graphics Engine is modified, using techniques that Apple uses, to access frameworks that are used in the OS or in major Apple apps, that are unlikely to change until an actual new OS release. 
 
Which one is more of a hack? 
 
Using a private framework that&#039;s for something very app-specific and constantly updated, a blazing new tech that has very minimal use, or a framework that&#039;s for a Pro app may be really_bad_ideas, but for an API that&#039;s already grounded by tons of devices in the field, not so much. As was seen, there were no problems with the magic trackpad, and there was a giant collective yawn ;-) 
 
Meanwhile, things like jittouch DIDN&#039;T work.  
 
Which is more of a hack? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider two scenarios:</p>
<p>1: An Interactive Graphics Engine cobbles together a poorly written library to try to replicate some kind of functionality that is in the Mac.</p>
<p>2: An Interactive Graphics Engine is modified, using techniques that Apple uses, to access frameworks that are used in the OS or in major Apple apps, that are unlikely to change until an actual new OS release.</p>
<p>Which one is more of a hack?</p>
<p>Using a private framework that&#039;s for something very app-specific and constantly updated, a blazing new tech that has very minimal use, or a framework that&#039;s for a Pro app may be really_bad_ideas, but for an API that&#039;s already grounded by tons of devices in the field, not so much. As was seen, there were no problems with the magic trackpad, and there was a giant collective yawn <img src='http://createdigitalmotion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Meanwhile, things like jittouch DIDN&#039;T work. </p>
<p>Which is more of a hack?</p>
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		<title>By: usefuldesign.au</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-23757</link>
		<dc:creator>usefuldesign.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 03:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dovemouse: &quot;it&#8217;d be great if you could &#8220;hijack&#8221; it. so it stops functioning as a mouse and the data goes straight to the app you&#8217;re using!&quot; 
 
That would be a super hack! If somebody comes up with it be sure to post back at kineme.net where I read all threads! 
 
I&#039;m thinking along the lines of an overlay with multiple sliders and on/off switches for a room lighting &amp; a/v control device. For $69 that&#039;s a lot cheaper than a set of say 10 midi sliders/knobs/toggles and you can set it up just how you like. The overlay would presumably need the touchable sections cutout of a rigid plastic layout sheet or something. 
 
Congrats on publication gtoledo! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dovemouse: &quot;it&rsquo;d be great if you could &ldquo;hijack&rdquo; it. so it stops functioning as a mouse and the data goes straight to the app you&rsquo;re using!&quot;</p>
<p>That would be a super hack! If somebody comes up with it be sure to post back at kineme.net where I read all threads!</p>
<p>I&#039;m thinking along the lines of an overlay with multiple sliders and on/off switches for a room lighting &amp; a/v control device. For $69 that&#039;s a lot cheaper than a set of say 10 midi sliders/knobs/toggles and you can set it up just how you like. The overlay would presumably need the touchable sections cutout of a rigid plastic layout sheet or something.</p>
<p>Congrats on publication gtoledo!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-23622</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Peter Kirn: The Kineme MultitouchPatch seems to be working on the Magic Trackpad.  
 
@gabe: I&#039;m able to turn off four finger Expos&#233; activation in the Trackpad preference panel located in System Preferences. The Trackpad preference panel doesn&#039;t show up there until doing a Software Update and installing the trackpad software (after pairing the Magic Trackpad with the computer), however. If you&#039;ve done all that and it&#039;s still not working ... I haven&#039;t a clue what the issue is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Peter Kirn: The Kineme MultitouchPatch seems to be working on the Magic Trackpad. </p>
<p>@gabe: I&#039;m able to turn off four finger Expos&eacute; activation in the Trackpad preference panel located in System Preferences. The Trackpad preference panel doesn&#039;t show up there until doing a Software Update and installing the trackpad software (after pairing the Magic Trackpad with the computer), however. If you&#039;ve done all that and it&#039;s still not working &#8230; I haven&#039;t a clue what the issue is.</p>
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		<title>By: gabe</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-23584</link>
		<dc:creator>gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never been ever to figure out how to turn off the four-finger gestures on my trackpad. I&#039;ve been using the kineme multitouch patch for a while, but can&#039;t figure this out.  
anyone know how to turn these off? for example, use four fingers and swipe down and it reveals all your document windows, and swipe up and it reveals the desktop. nice feature, until you want to use the multitouch patch or something along those lines. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been ever to figure out how to turn off the four-finger gestures on my trackpad. I&#039;ve been using the kineme multitouch patch for a while, but can&#039;t figure this out. </p>
<p>anyone know how to turn these off? for example, use four fingers and swipe down and it reveals all your document windows, and swipe up and it reveals the desktop. nice feature, until you want to use the multitouch patch or something along those lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Frisson</title>
		<link>http://createdigitalmotion.com/2010/07/apple-magic-trackpad-as-multi-touch-input-and-cross-platform-multi-touch/#comment-23381</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Frisson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ported/forked anyma&#039;s [fingerpinger] to Pd using flext. It is available here, source included:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.numediart.org/download/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.numediart.org/download/&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Part of a toolbox for reusing off-the-shelf input devices featured in (another) NIME 2010 paper:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.educ.dab.uts.edu.au/nime/PROCEEDINGS/papers/Demo%20Q1-Q15/P473_Frisson.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.educ.dab.uts.edu.au/nime/PROCEEDINGS/p...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Alternative: Hans-Christopher Steiner&#039;s [multitouch] native Pd object (part of pd-extended). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ported/forked anyma&#039;s [fingerpinger] to Pd using flext. It is available here, source included:<br />
  <a href="http://www.numediart.org/download/" rel="nofollow">http://www.numediart.org/download/</a>  </p>
<p>Part of a toolbox for reusing off-the-shelf input devices featured in (another) NIME 2010 paper:<br />
  <a href="http://www.educ.dab.uts.edu.au/nime/PROCEEDINGS/papers/Demo%20Q1-Q15/P473_Frisson.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.educ.dab.uts.edu.au/nime/PROCEEDINGS/p&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>Alternative: Hans-Christopher Steiner&#039;s [multitouch] native Pd object (part of pd-extended).</p>
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